View Article  Update On Obstructed Seating
In yesterday's Newsday , Mets vice president David Howard indicated they are aware of promenade level obstructed seating. Because of the LED ribbon boards mounted on the railings of the promenade facade on the first and third base side, fans may have a partially blocked view of the infield if seated in the first row.
 
Howard indicated this may only be a problem for fans that are vertically challenged (short). He went on to say that a booster seat of some type may be necessary. I'm thinking for $75.00 a pop to sit in those seats, a booster seat is not the best solution. Howard also said that they have the means to correct the problem but he did not elaborate. That either means they can move the seats for complaining individuals or they can do the right thing and mount the LED ribbon boards lower.
 
The Mets, always concerned about what the media has to say, are playing with fire here. There will be a number of fans who will be effected by these ribbon boards on both the first and third base side. It's hard for me to believe they did not think this through before installing these message boards.
 
In case you don't know what a ribbon board is, they are all the rage at stadiums and arena's these days. They are very thin message display boards that use LED technology. They mostly display advertisements but can also display team related stuff like slogans and cheers. The content on these boards are animated graphics in nature using brightly lit colors. Shea had them too the last few seasons.
 
At Citi Field, the ribbon boards are mounted on the third and first base promenade facade. In drawings and also in the 3d-Seating tool, the ribbon boards appear to be hung just below the railing but in reality they are in front of the railing. Fans seated in the first row in three sections on both sides of the park will need to look through the railing to see the entire infield. It is not uncommon in newer ballparks, where the upper levels are closer to the field then their cookie cutter counterparts, to have to look through a railing to see part of the field. In the case of Citi Field, fans will be staring right into the back of the ribbon boards unless they sit far forward in their seats. Doing so will like effect the fans sitting in rows behind.
 
It's late in the game as Citi Field is slated to open in a bit more than a month. The Mets need to figure out how to get those boards moved down about a foot and a half and settle this problem. The last thing the Mets want is for the media to start ripping apart their brand new ballpark, one that has been touted to have impeccable site lines.
 
The Mets made a conscious effort to build a very intimate setting at Citi Field. Fans will be much closer to the field than they were at Shea Stadium. The footprint of Citi Field appears to be slightly larger than Shea but the seating bowl is much smaller. Bringing seats closer is not without its problems. For example, the out field seating which includes the Pepsi Porch has built in obstruction. Since the porch hangs over the field, anyone seated there will miss the action when a ball is hit into the right field corner. The difference here however, is this built in "quirk" is obvious when looking at the view from the 3d Seat Viewer. And it's uniqueness has apparently become popular since tickets in this section are selling well.
 
Fans seated in the three tiered left field sections will also be hard pressed to see the action in the left field corner. Again, that is to be expected since the stands are so close to the field. The only way to have avoided this was to create a much steeper rake in the upper level. A steep upper level is something Chicago White Sox fans still complain about at Cellular Field.
 
Some seats at Citi Field will have worse views than others but the infield and most of the outfield should be seen from all of them and they are. But when prime seating is effected by a device mostly used for advertising, then something must be done. This is not a design flaw, it's a placement flaw and if the Mets do not straighten it out, the fans will let them know about it.   
 
The Mets are not alone here. While the Mets can solve there issues by moving the ribbon boards, the Yankees have their own problems. About three hundred bleacher seats have a huge obstruction. Fans seated next to the center field restaurant can only see half of the field. The Yankees are giving the excuse that those seats are only twelve dollars and they are putting up flat screen TVs. I'm not putting up with the hassle of going to Yankee Stadium to watch the game on TV. Sorry, that's just me. Either don't sell the seats or correct the problem.   
 
Yankee Stadium also had some seats behind beams but the Yankees have indicated they will be removing those seats. At least, that's what they are saying.
 
It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. I have been a big fan of Citi Field and have written about the new digs often. I certainly hope the place is everything we have been led to believe it is. In this economy, regardless of how expensive or how cheap a ticket might be, the view from your seat should be a good one.
View Article  Citi Field Construction

Enjoy this slide show from WebShots' Citi_Field. The pictures show construction around the new ballpark including leveling the parking area that was once Shea Stadium. Inside the park we see the work going on to complete the Pepsi sign at the right field Pepsi Porch.


Citi Field Construction 2/21/09

 

Also, click here to view the latest aerial shots of the site from Tom Kaminski's chopper.

View Article  Obstructed Seating
A post on Metsblog.com yesterday suggested the New York Post is soon publishing an article detailing flaws within Citi Field. I agree with Matt Cerrone that the source should be judged before we begin condemning the new Mets home. However, there are several photographs out on the Internet that do show some disturbing seating locations. Like anything else in life, buyer beware when purchasing your tickets.
 
Yesterday, I purchased my first tickets to the new Citi Field. I plan on taking my son on his 15th birthday. I purchased the tickets on StubHub and they were reasonably priced. For $23 dollars each, I obtained two tickets on the aisle behind home plate in the promenade reserved level. In height, the seats are roughly equivalent to the first row of Shea's upper deck but are positioned closer to the playing field. One thing I did was to verify our site lines by using the Citi Field Seats-3D tool found on Mets.com, a practice I strongly suggest.
 
The view from these seats appear to be excellent. You can see the entire playing field with nothing obstructing your view except a bit of railing blocking an area behind the plate. If a ball is hit in either the right or left field corner, you will not see it bouncing around because the lower field level stands stick out hugging the foul lines. Other than that, the seats are perfect. Now are these seats as good as the field or club level? Of course not but my last name is not Trump.
 
Are there bad seats in the ballpark even when Jeff Wilpon claims every seat is a good one? Yes there are. When you build a stadium that is cozier and smaller than Shea Stadium, there are bound to be seats that do not have the best of views contrary to all the hype. While most of Shea's seats allowed you to see the entire playing field, a great many of them were a mile away from the action. That's the trade off.
 
Bringing Citi Field's promenade level (upper deck) closer to the field is where most of the bad seating will be found. In particular, there are a whole bunch of seats in left field behind the out of town scoreboard that will not allow those seated there to see the flight of the ball. This is likely limited to the last five or six rows of the upper level (17 rows in all). However, these seats are no worse than sitting in the last row of the mezzanine at Shea which were probably worse. What could have been done different?
 
In the original computer rendering, the out of town scoreboard looked a bit smaller and not as obtrusive. I'm no engineer but I do not see a reason why the board was not installed above the canopy instead of below.
 
Another area of concern involves seats in the first couple of rows of the promenade reserved. The promenade level is split into two sections, one up and one down. From the open concourse, fans step down to the box seats. Fans must climb stairs to the upper reserved seats. A number of fans sitting in the first couple of rows on the baseline sides of the reserved seats above the split are going to have to look through the landing railings of the stairwells that reach these seats. Again, this was a design change from the originally released renderings. If you look at a current photo of the upper level behind home plate, you will see six access tunnels to the seating area. These tunnels originally were in every section of the promenade as illustrated by another originally released rendering. A design change was made for some reason.
 
Later drawings showed the newer access stairways having metal railings with posts. These were changed to Plexiglas when they were eventually installed likely because engineers realized that some of these seats would have obstructed views because of the railings.
 
I can only assume the stairs at the split were added to reduce the amount of steps fans would have to climb to get to their seats. Plus the concourse would be much more open than if there were access staircases every so many feet. The trade off however is to create some seating at a desired location with less than desired results.
 
While everyone seems to be touting the Pepsi Porch in right field. Realize that the right field corner will not be visible by any fans sitting there. You can't see something you are sitting on top of. The quirky and retro section comes with a retro view. Yet when you check StubHub, these seats are hard to come by and expensive. Go figure.
 
Fans sitting in the Left Field Landing also have a similar obstructed view of left field because the height of the wall. The outfield corners are hard to see from the promenade the further you sit down the lines. Another consequence of offering an upper level that is so much closer to the field than Shea's.
 
No matter how you shake it, there will be some less than desirable seats at Citi Field. But nothing can be definitive until the park opens and the shakedown begins. And in all fairness, it's a bit difficult to be critical when judging from photographs and computer annimations. I'm sure when the Post article comes out they will have a field day trashing the place because that's what they do. The truth is the majority of the 42,500 seats at Citi Field will be fine and superior to any seat Shea Stadium had to offer. But retro and quirky designs can't be created without some goofy seating.
 
The good news is if you have a bad seat, nothing is to stop you from walking around the place where there is plenty of standing room to get a better view. Plus the large scoreboards, both with playback capability, will aid in seeing things you missed because of a bad seat (unless of course, you cannot see the scoreboards from your bad seat). The Mets may have to adjust the pricing of the bad seats as well. I certainly would not be happy if I put down several hundreds of dollars for a season ticket plan and then have to dodge fans climbing to their seats while looking through Plexiglas the whole game.
 
In the computer world, things that don't work or are convoluted are sarcastically referred to as features. I guess in the stadium design business, seats with obstructed views can be referred to as charm.
View Article  Photo Tour of Citi Field and Shea

Here are 137 photos from the inside of Citi Field thanks to Islandxtreme26 from Webshots...

 


Citi Field 2-13-09

...and check out this slideshow from what is left of Shea Stadium.

 



Shea Stadium Demolition 2-13-09
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